Bryan Crain, from over at 'Tulsa TV Memories' sent me this information in reference to the Dairy Queen locations in The Outsiders...

"The Dairy Queen was on North Cincinnati around 33rd St. North...this is where 'Dallas' took them to get something to eat after they had been in the church. The building was still there a few years ago with junk cars and a fence surrounding it...I do not know if it still stands or not...."

"The park and playground are at the same location...Crutchfield Park (the TTVM GB has a link to the exact address). This is also the location where Dallas was gunned down near the end of the film. I remember the fountain (where the soc's tried to drown Ponyboy) was specifically constructed for the movie (basically built around a sprinkler/fountain that kids play in ). Zoetrope offered to let the City of Tulsa keep the newly built fountain....but the city declined and had it torn down"

"...the High school they attended was Will Rogers. It is located at 5th and Pittsburgh in Tulsa..."

"The Dairy Queen was on 86th Street North in Owasso....this where they had the discussion about the rumble (it is demolished.) but the old High School (Ator Field) bleachers are still there, although not used for high school football any longer."

"...Earlier this year, they shot video of S.E. Hinton at many of the locations around Tulsa for the 20th anniversary DVD.."

* The building subbing for a DX station in The Outsiders is still standing at the 'corner' of E. Main St. and Cincinnati in Sperry.

* The exterior of the Bowen Lounge on the southeast corner of

11th St and Denver in downtown Tulsa was used in the downtown scenes of the movie. That distinctive

checkerboard tiling is seen behind the characters as they meet and walk down the street.

(The Bowen was razed years ago, according to Bryan, and nothing is on that corner today but grass.)

Also responding to my inquiry posted to 'Tulsa TV Memories'is Gary Chew , classical music host, programmer and producer now at Capital Public Radio in Sacramento . He also does the movie reviews for the TTVM website. He had this to share of his experience of living in Tulsa during the filming of "The Outsiders" and "Rumblefish"...

"...The Dairy Queen is in Owasso. It sits across the street East of the football stadium. That's probably why they used it. The Dairy Queen was also at the North end of Owasso...."

" ..I talked to the manager of that Dairy Queen after seeing the film on a re-run on TV, I think. He told me about Coppola sitting in the front door of the place while shooting takes inside and out in the parking lot. There's a pretty long scene with actors exchanging lines in that parking lot and in a car in the lot, if I remember correctly. As you probably know, Rumblefish was shot to some extent in Sapulpa and some along the Arkansas River, Riverside Drive and 21st in Tulsa. One evening, I was driving down Riverside Drive, not knowing that Coppola was shoot scenes there. I saw lots of lights under the 21st Street Bridge, stopped and walked over to the bridge. There was Coppola doing what directors do. It was cool. I also went over to Sapulpa and saw some of a set in Rumblefish where Matt Dillion and Dennis Hopper, as son and father, respectively, "lived." What a dump it was. An upstairs room in an old downtown Sapulpa hotel. We saw Dillion with his phoney stomach scar that's readily visible in the film as well as Dennis in costume as the drunken dad. Little did I know, except for Hopper, that so many dudes in those movies were to become so famous. And we can't forget Diane Lane, who was just recently up for an Oscar."

David Allen Smith, boom operator on the film added

these interesting tid-bits!

"...In the shot where the greasers are walking down the street toward the rumble, a hat blows into the shot and Emilio (I think it was him) picks it up and puts it on. The hat belonged to the cameraman Elliot Davis and the big fans that we used to create the wind blew it off his head and into the shot.

Also on that night, we were shooting all nights for awhile, we ran out of fullers earth (a fine powdery dirt) that we were throwing into the fans to simulate dust blowing in the air to make it look really windy. Well, halfway through the night we ran out of the dirt, and since we had already established it earlier in some shots, we had to match it. So what the FX people did was gather all the hot chocolate powder we had on hand that night and that's what they threw in the fans the rest of the night. Anything in a pinch.

And it had the exact same consistency as the fullers earth. Needless to say, the crew was all covered in chocolate powder!

Another thing was that when we were in Skiatook, OK doing the hideout church scene it had been raining for days and when we went to burn it down it was soaking wet and a second unit had to come several days later to burn it down after it had dried out a little."

Thank you David for sharing this cool inside look at how things get done behind the camera!!